(LAUGH) But what democracy is is that all of the outsiders have to govern ourselves. And she said, "You know, just whoever dreamed that an actress, a girl from a small town could ever get to meet the vice president of the United States, Richard Nixon."Īnd he said, "Whoever dreamed that I could grow up like this skinny awkward kid in California and I could (LAUGH) end up meeting Marilyn Monroe." So everybody feels a little bit like an outsider in America. I don't know if it was true or not, but about Richard Nixon and Marilyn Monroe where they invite her to the White House. I don't feel like I'm enough of an insider."Īnd my dad would tell this story. Or I don't know if I could actually take a job in the government. People would say things like, "Well, gee, I don't know if I could testify in Congress.
Jamie Raskin: You know, my dad used to tell a funny story about that. So tell about your family, your grandfather and then your dad. You have this kind of distinct heritage, a great sort of liberal family through the years that I think I would describe as being sort of like one foot in the establishment and one foot in the anti-establishment, (LAUGH) I think if that makes sense. All Congressman.Ĭhris Hayes: So I want to start with your family because you come from an incredible line of fascinating people, (LAUGH) and your dad in particular. And anyone in suicidal crisis or emotional distress can contact the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline, 24/7, at 1-80. I should also note before we get started that this episode contains mentions of suicide. And it's my great pleasure to welcome Congressman Raskin to the program. It's called Unthinkable: Trauma, Truth, and the Trials of American Democracy. Then Speaker Nancy Pelosi in an act, in which he says in his new book, sort of was a lifeline to him and recruited him to be the impeachment manager on the second impeachment at a moment in which he had been through two profound traumas, a personal trauma and a kind of collective national trauma that he also had experienced with his family, with his beloved daughter and son-in-law.Īnd he has a new memoir out about those twin traumas. He was still in shock and mourning and grieving his son's death when he was at the Capitol with one of his daughters and his son-in-law January 6th wen the January 6th attack happened. He's spoken very eloquently about Tommy's loss, the devastation of it. Congressman Raskin also shortly before January 6th suffered an unthinkable, unfathomable personal tragedy which was the death by suicide of his adult son, Tommy. But Congressman Raskin's someone who I've always looked at as a really remarkable public servant at least in the capacity that I've known him, and a really interesting guy. And they really run the gamut in the sort of depth of their thoughtfulness, (LAUGH) the life experiences they've had, the politics. And you learn a lot from different politicians. And, you know, I meet a lot of politicians. The two of were both law professors before they sort of entered public life.Īnd Jamie Raskin's just a really fascinating guy. His wife, Sarah Bloom Raskin, worked at the Treasury Department.
I sort of knew of Jamie Raskin even before he was a member of Congress, when he was a state legislator. He drafted the articles of impeachment along with others who were part of that effort. He was the lead impeachment manager for the second impeachment of Donald Trump, the impeachment for leading and inciting the insurrection.
He represents Maryland's 9th Congressional District in the U.S. One of the sort of clearest voices on the dangers of what happened January 6th, and more broadly one of the voices in politics I find to best combine deep knowledge with human empathy and a historical sensibility is Congressman Jamie Raskin. There's an accelerating investigation of course from the select committee, a lot of meditations on the meaning of that day, which is as profoundly and proximate a threat to American democracy and the way that we conceive of it in the modern era as anything that I have experienced certainly in my lifetime. You have probably seen a lot of the January 6th one-year anniversary coverage in lots of places on our program All In With Chris Hayes which is weekends on MSNBC, across all kinds of media platforms. And we can have a renewal of our country.Ĭhris Hayes: Hello, and welcome to Why Is This Happening we me, your host, Chris Hayes. Jamie Raskin: The road to rebuilding for America is through honest reckoning with the traumas we've experienced and then building beyond that.
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